I like reading a good web site post, but what I really like is finding an excellent, on-going source of information. If you are really interested in energy investing, the investor village BRY board is such a place. I don't have time to really follow it, but if I were serious about energy investing I would. Here's the thread where I asked them what to investigate at the ASPO USA Peak Oil conference this week (click here). My inquiry provoked a discussion of how the Tight-Shale Unconventional Oil affects Peak Oil. What follows is, in my view, the two top posts:
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| Posted 10/30/2011 2:54:54 AM by Petroeng | ||
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Re: I'm Attending The ASPO-USA Peak Oil Conference This Week The entire statistical basis for Peak Oil fell apart in 2005-2008. Peak Oil was based on a statistical analysis of conventional reservoirs that have been or would be discovered and production projected, based on the hypothesis that oil was a finite resource that was limited to those conventional reservoirs. The two events that started to cause the statistical basis to erode was the extension of exploration to deepwater, which could be argued is fairly minor due to the expense and techological challege, which is true. The event that really shot Peak OIl apart was the application of horizontal drilling and multi-stage fracturing to unconventional reservoirs, first limited to natural gas in the Barnett and now spreading to many shale plays worldwide, which include both liguid-rich natural gas and outright oil. The volume of conventional reservoirs that could produce is limited by the combination of the need for the source rock, reservoir rock, and a seal, which is limited to relatively small amount of the earth's crust. However, the so-called shale plays are much more extensive, dwarfing the conventional reservoirs volumes. A good analogy maybe an elephant to a gnat, on a rock volume basis. True, not everything will be productive, and there will be ranges in economics, which can now be estimated for the variety of shale plays. In short, the entire basis for Peak Oil was eroded with the emergence of the shale plays - and no one in their right mind would claim the Hubbert conceived of them in his original model. At $3.00 oil, the shale plays don't work, but we are not at $3.00 oil and the shale plays work very well, and will work even better as the technology improves. The shale plays are one of the most transformative series of events in the world's energy history, and like the advent of the internet, they will change everything. |
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| Msg # 81299 | Posted 10/30/2011 11:03:46 AM by bigenergybull | |
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Re: I'm Attending The ASPO-USA Peak Oil Conference This Week The shale plays basically prove that the economists were always right: Don't tell me we have a shortage. Tell me "at what price" we have a shortage. That obviously applies to oil demand (at $100 world demand is 89 MBPD, at $60 it would be higher and at $200 it would be lower) It now applies to oil supply...although the curve is not linear, and the curve is steep at our current equilibrium. "The curve is steep" means that it takes significant oil price increases to increase the supply (because of all the depletion we are running against). Its not vertical as the hard core Peak oil people would maintain (IE - even if oil was $300 a barrel we would not be able to increase the world's oil production---NO CHANGE in oil price is high enough to cause an increase in supply) The curve is not linear means that there are certain "price steps" at which significant supply growth stops. The breakeven price of new offshore drilling is one, the breakeven price of new oilsands expansion is another, the breakeven price of oil in unconventional resevoirs, albeit quite low, is another...and of course the breakeven budget prices of Saudi Arabia and other Middle East states should probably be considered another, perhaps the highest price point of them all). Anyone talking about Peak Oil being "the end of days", and going back to farming with a horse and plow because we don't have enough oil to run the tractors, well, they've been proven resoundingly wrong, and should sound like shrill doomsdayers to most educated people now. The tractors may run on Natural gas, or they may run on Eagleford/Bakken/Cardium/Oil sands oil, but they will run, and in greater numbers than ever as we feed a booming world population. 7 Billion strong, and growing. |
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Let me know what you think, especially about "the end of days" comment.
MontyHigh, www.worldofwallstreet.us

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